Bug 11.0.2: Alt+tab in notes results in wrong returning focuse

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Bug 11.0.2: Alt+tab in notes results in wrong returning focuse

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If you are composing a note in EPIM, and you alt+tab to get to something like say a PDF viewer or web browser that you're taking notes from, then atl+tab back to EPIM the note area no longer has focus instead the menu bar does, so then you have to use the mouse to click the note body to start typing again.

I know this wasn't the case in v10 and earlier not sure when exactly it started, but it has been causing me quite a lot of problems lately.
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Re: Bug 11.0.2: Alt+tab in notes results in wrong returning focuse

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+1 would like to see this get fixed. Dives me crazy quite often.
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Re: Bug 11.0.2: Alt+tab in notes results in wrong returning focuse

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Unable to reproduce this, unfortunately. Please create a small video indicating the issue.
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Re: Bug 11.0.2: Alt+tab in notes results in wrong returning focuse

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Here's a video, all i do is type. "type type" and hit alt+tab unless I'm typing out what's happened.

It doesn't do it consistently, some times it'll actually work properly for a few dozen times in a row, but sooner or later especially with more than two programs open it will get sticky and keep going to the menu bar instead of the note where it should.
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Re: Bug 11.0.2: Alt+tab in notes results in wrong returning focuse

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I have 15 programs open. I tried adding text to a new note, as well as an existing note. I Alt-tab multiple times >10, but could not duplicate the problem. Not saying the problem isn't real, just that it is not happening on my system. Win10, WinEPIM v11.0.3. Is it possible it's related to Win11?
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Re: Bug 11.0.2: Alt+tab in notes results in wrong returning focuse

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Could be I am on Windows 11 64-bit, and in fact every computer in my home and office is and I can replicate it on every system.
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Re: Bug 11.0.2: Alt+tab in notes results in wrong returning focuse

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S_Belle wrote: Wed Jul 27, 2022 3:18 am Could be I am on Windows 11 64-bit, and in fact every computer in my home and office is and I can replicate it on every system.
I don't have access to any Win11 systems, so I can't verify if Win11 is the culprit. Perhaps some other end user with Win11 could test for this alt-tab issue discussed in this thread?
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Re: Bug 11.0.2: Alt+tab in notes results in wrong returning focuse

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My system is windows 10 and my wife's is windows 11.

Don't have the issue on my computer, but can reproduce it on hers, seems to crop up randomly, doesn't seem to effect other programs though. I can for example alt+tab out of notepad, wordpad, word with no issues on her system no matter how hard I try, but I can get the menu bar issue to crop up on EPIM after a few different programs.
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Re: Bug 11.0.2: Alt+tab in notes results in wrong returning focuse

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S_Belle, thanks for the video. Still unable to reproduce the problem even on Win11 PCs, although will check what could be causing it.
Please also restart EPIM, will there be any changes concerning the issue then?
And check with other modules please - will you experience identical behaviour as in notes?
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Re: Bug 11.0.2: Alt+tab in notes results in wrong returning focuse

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Yes it does happen in other places in EPIM, but after some more extreme testing, it seems this is likely to be a windows 11 Alt+tab / task switcher system issue.

If I use WinaeroTweaker to change the alt+tab screen to classic version (icons on a grey bar) instead of the new fancy version everything works fine.
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Re: Bug 11.0.2: Alt+tab in notes results in wrong returning focuse

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Could you please post a sceenshot of the new version and of the classic one for the alt+tab shortcut? Maybe that gives us some clue..
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Re: Bug 11.0.2: Alt+tab in notes results in wrong returning focuse

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Here's the classic Alt+Tab
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Here's a generic Windows 11 new alt+tab from google because otherwise I'd have to restart my computer twice once to re-enable it and then once again to disable it.
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Re: Bug 11.0.2: Alt+tab in notes results in wrong returning focuse

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I'd also ask you to please get the Portable version of EPIM, install it into a new folder, create a new database and check if the issue will be reproducible then with the default Windows 11 alt+tab option.
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Re: Bug 11.0.2: Alt+tab in notes results in wrong returning focuse

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Yep, first thing I always test now days is a clean portable version.
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Re: Bug 11.0.2: Alt+tab in notes results in wrong returning focuse

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It if happens with new/clean EPIM installation then this should be a problem for anyone while it's clearly not. This tells us that there's something in your system that affects the issue. The problem is to determine what that is..
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